Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world.

Try doing that without your religion!

No one ever gave that answer to Christopher Hitchens? Kind of surprising wouldn’t you think?

Hahaha. You slay me, Geno. Good one.

Spanish,
Sorry, I forgot that you are biblically impaired – Genesis 3:15 is called the Protoevangelium, which means that it is the first proclamation of the gospel.

But at least you did upgrade to modern english.

Yes, but even in modern English, it makes no sense. Being biblically impaired as I am, I suspect that there are probably 1000s upon 1000s of books written to interpret that one sentence, and poor me, I haven’t read them.

But I’m sure one of the Gospel writers or Paul wrote something that you could then point to as fulfillment of some prophecy.

Spanish,
So, when you open one of your law books are you disappointed that there is not a copy of the periodic table included?
For some reason, people on this blog think it should be published with all books

This is why we back off from arguing with you anymore, Geno. You make up stuff like this, then attribute it to us, so we have to defend against it, while at the same time, you ignore our points. It’s nice deflection, but we see through you.

Now, point out where anyone said the periodic table must be published with all books.

Then, after you show me that, how about a little comment about your religious scientist hero, Newton, whose fascination with religion needed to be artificially stimulated by insanity, brought on by exposure to a neurotoxic element that God COULD have warned him about, but didn’t.

But you, in your quarter of a century (plus 1 yr) have declared that all of their knowledge and wisdom is for naught.

Ah are we back to my age again? That old chestnut of a logical fallacy. Instead of wasting your time and everyone else’s with this ad hominem rubbish, why didn’t you comment on the stripy sheep verse of the bible?

Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world. Try doing that without your religion!

Sorry Geno, my question was limited to events that actually happened. I thought this was fairly obvious. No more than Father Christmas visiting every Christian child in the world on Christmas Eve can be considered a good deed.

Of course you will keep dancing around the real issues, but as usual you’re yet to say anything of value, which is of course in keeping with your religion.

Of course I wouldn’t expect to find a periodic table in the bible! The people who wrote it didn’t have a clue about it. Instead we’re given tons of useless info about dying wool and not making a garment from two different fabrics, or the exact dimensions and composition of the tabernacle, or not working on a particular day, or which animals can be eaten or not, how much a woman is worth compared to a man (half of course), or how to produce stripy sheep by making them look at stripy pieces of wood! I’d say you can’t make this stuff up, but of course that’s exactly what they did.

All I was asking for is one throwaway verse about the atomic number of carbon. How incredible would that be? How useful and inspirational for future generations, and what solid proof of futuristic scientific knowledge?!

But as usual, like the article says, when it comes to anything really useful or meaningful, religion is bankrupt and childish.

(Oh and I don’t speak for any atheists – I speak for myself. Some agree with me and some might not. But atheists are independent free-thinkers, we don’t have a creed or belief system. We can think for ourselves. Neat eh?)

No one ever gave that answer to Christopher Hitchens? Kind of surprising wouldn’t you think?

No. The people who he debates with (watch the videos on YouTube for yourself) as religious as they are; even they recognise that to use that as an example would be question begging hilarity.

Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world.

Try doing that without your religion!

No one ever gave that answer to Christopher Hitchens? Kind of surprising wouldn’t you think?

But at least you did upgrade to modern english.

The point was that evanescent has put himself in the position to declare that religion has no value. He puts himself above all knowledge in the history of man.

If he had said that if held no value for himself or if he said that no one one on this blog saw any value, I wouldn’t have objected. However, he chose to speak for all mankind – I thought that was ballsey – and since he is speaking for all atheists (included in all mankind) it shows lack of perspective.

Therefore you can take your “Appeal to Popularity.” and stick it since that was not the point.

If anyone would expect something like the periodic table to be in the Bible, it is just proof that they have never read Bible or didn’t read it very seriously.

The entire theme of the Bible is listed in Genesis 3:15, why would someone include the periodic table?

Humor, right?

And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel. Gen 3:15 (NIV)

WTF?

Everyone is probably sleeping on that side of the world, so I’ll tell you what it’s called:

It’s called the Appeal to Popularity.

After you read the link, do me a favor. Check the library of Congress for all the books and articles ever written about alchemy and astrology.

More has been published on the subject of Christianity in general and Jesus Christ is particular than any other subject (even to this day) – 1,000s upon 1,000 of volumes.

Got any more fallacious arguments for us , Geno? You seem to be full of them.

Anyone want to enlighten him with the name of this one?

Newton was obvious in his effort to discover what and how God created.

and

Great minds down through history has discussed the value of religion and the person of Jesus Christ

Coincidentally, I’m still on the Chemistry chapter of “The Canon”. From page 140:

Working in his Cambridge laboratory, Newton handled and sampled mercury droplets and inhaled their volatilized fumes, until he became as mad as a hatter or as flaky as a furrier – tradesmen that famously cured their fabrics in mercury and infamously suffered from the metal’s neurotoxic effects. Preserved locks of Newton’s hair reveal high concentrations of mercury, and, according to contemporary accounts, he grew increasingly hostile and choleric over time. Toward the end of his long life, the man who earlier had discovered the universal laws of gravity, motion and optics and invented calculus, and whom James Gleick called the “chief architect of the modern world,” expressed little interest in anything but that most fantastical of Gospels, the book of Revelation.

Great minds down through history has discussed the value of religion and the person of Jesus Christ. More has been published on the subject of Christianity in general and Jesus Christ is particular than any other subject (even to this day) – 1,000s upon 1,000 of volumes.
But you, in your quarter of a century (plus 1 yr) have declared that all of their knowledge and wisdom is for naught.

Carry on!

Instead, we are given some rather interesting advice regarding genetics: if you want stripy coloured sheep, have them mate whilst looking at stripy coloured sticks! Brilliant. Don’t recall Mendel or Dawkin’s mentioning that chestnut in any of their works!